Hotels With Gym in Johor, Malaysia

The check-in staff, grace was very friendly and her service was excellent. Because of the good services, we extended another night. We greatly appreciate your staff's initiatives and friendly services. We hope to stay in the future.

Love the people at the front desk, they are always so happy and friendly. Check-in took a bit longer than usual but the staff were very apologetic. I stayed in the Urban room at level 12 facing the highway and river. To my surprise it was rather quiet I can’t really hear the traffic. Morning breakfast at level 6 was pretty crowded. The next morning I just went down earlier and it was great. The girls at breakfast were always happy to welcome us… keep it up 👍

If you are planning to go to Johor for the weekend, Z Hotel is the place to stay as it's relatively close to the checkpoint and near many famous eateries. Choose Z Hotel, the perfect place to stay.

Excellent hotel to stay in. I guess the hotel just newly renovated but the air conditioning in the room a bit old and not well maintained. The air conditioning too cold at night even though we set up 27 degrees celcius. The surface of the air conditioning was frozen. Breakfast wise very good. The quality was excellent. You will have warm croissants and warm danish pastries. Come with local dishes as well. All the staff starting from the front desk staff, the parking guard, the F&B teams was friendly. Overall stay was pretty good.

Its my first stay at Holiday Inn JBCC. I love the cleanliness of the hotel room the bed is so comfy! Breakfast was alright but maybe more protein based items will be great. Below is KOMTAR JBCC. Its so convenient for food and shopping. Should increase water pressure for hose bidet in toilet.

The hotel staff is very welcoming and helpfull. Thank you to Executive Puan Sarimah Sapwi on your kind helpfull. I was here attending company training. What I want to say is it the ballroom is very spacious and comfort. The room ia a sound proof. The food is very good and deliciuos. It is variety and very tastefully. The High tea also very good especially a mee goreng mamak. Overal is very good.

Dear Crystal Crown Management Team, First of all, I would like to thank you for the hospitality during this period. To begin with, I have a brother who is currently serving quarantine at Hotel Ramada, so I know exactly what are the two hotels offering and its differences. Nevertheless, my stay with Crystal Crown has been a decent one which I am grateful for. I will also be honest with you that there are quite number of areas which need to be improved, not only for the wellbeing of the next batch of guests, but also for the benefit of your staff members. Hence, I would like to provide some constructive suggestions. 1) Communications a) Clarity on the rules of food / items delivery. The RELA briefed us on the arrival day, but it was unclear as we were seated outdoor. A suggestion is to include pictures in your document. See the attached photo for illustration. Besides pasting the rules at the entrance, you could also print it out in black and white for every room, together with the welcome letter. I believe that once the rules are spelled out clearly, the guests will manage their expectations accordingly. b) Distribute the 14 days necessities (e.g. mineral waters, trash bag, toiletries) at one shot. This is also a good practice of Hotel Ramada. Not only the guests can ration the items based on their needs, it also saves your hotel staff the trouble of attending to the needs of the guests at all time. c) Discontinue the whatsapp group. I understand the intention of setting up the group is for emergency purpose. But we all clearly know that this is not the case. Unfortunately, the chat group becomes a platform of all sorts of stuff: from requesting the daily necessities, clarifying the same delivery rules, asking the staff to pick up and send food / items, to spamming the group of 198 people with complaints and feud, or even turning the group into personal chat room. I believe once point a) & b) are sorted out, there is less need to use the whatsapp group as the main channel of communication. We can always use the phone in our room to call the front desk for additional requests or attend to emergency matters. Respecting the guests’ privacy is very much appreciated. 2) Dietary Preferences a) Make the effort to collect guests’ dietary needs and be committed to attend to it. This is a basic etiquette and fundamentals of the hospitality industries. Peanut and seafood allergies can be severe and deadly. The health of people with medical conditions (e.g. diabetes) could be affected. Not to mention the vulnerable such as the elderly, young children and pregnant women. We are human after all, hence the importance of mutual respect – treat the guests the way you want to be treated. b) Look after the well-being of the vegetarians. I would like to speak up for the vegetarians, especially those who practise strict vegetarianism. They cannot to take onions, garlic, chives, green onions and leeks, as it cause anger and desi

Near to Banafe and Kampung Carabao for dinner. There are also mini shops at the hotel lobby.

This hotel is 4 star very near to s’pore city & the hotels surrornded with many restaurants & club & pubs Osm . Dont miss out to Go to NZ Spa which is located at facility flr level 7 . Its sauna , body Massage & jacussi is super good open till morning from evening to 5 am the rate fir this spa is reasonable rate & can pay via cash or online payment . The Front desk officer is very friendly too . I really enjoy staying in this hotel but only think the swimming pool area now is closed due to Maintenance work . The Gym & NZ spa facilities is a available . Great trip & i really enjoy staying here & spend my weekends .

Had a one night stay over the weekends, everything was good until I realised I got bed bug bites all over when I left the hotel. The room we stayed in was 2802 but I didn’t manage to capture any photo evidence of bed bugs as I have already checked out when the itch got worse and I saw all the bug bites on my arms and leg. I’ve stayed at Capri many times but it’s the first time I experienced this. Went to the doctor and confirmed I had bed bug bites. Contacted the hotel through trip.com but the hotel staff said they didn’t find any bed bugs. Hope they can thoroughly check again to prevent this from happening to other guests. Photos of my bed bug bites when Im back in SG.

The check-in staff, grace was very friendly and her service was excellent. Because of the good services, we extended another night. We greatly appreciate your staff's initiatives and friendly services. We hope to stay in the future.

Love the people at the front desk, they are always so happy and friendly. Check-in took a bit longer than usual but the staff were very apologetic. I stayed in the Urban room at level 12 facing the highway and river. To my surprise it was rather quiet I can’t really hear the traffic. Morning breakfast at level 6 was pretty crowded. The next morning I just went down earlier and it was great. The girls at breakfast were always happy to welcome us… keep it up 👍

If you are planning to go to Johor for the weekend, Z Hotel is the place to stay as it's relatively close to the checkpoint and near many famous eateries. Choose Z Hotel, the perfect place to stay.

Excellent hotel to stay in. I guess the hotel just newly renovated but the air conditioning in the room a bit old and not well maintained. The air conditioning too cold at night even though we set up 27 degrees celcius. The surface of the air conditioning was frozen. Breakfast wise very good. The quality was excellent. You will have warm croissants and warm danish pastries. Come with local dishes as well. All the staff starting from the front desk staff, the parking guard, the F&B teams was friendly. Overall stay was pretty good.

Its my first stay at Holiday Inn JBCC. I love the cleanliness of the hotel room the bed is so comfy! Breakfast was alright but maybe more protein based items will be great. Below is KOMTAR JBCC. Its so convenient for food and shopping. Should increase water pressure for hose bidet in toilet.

The hotel staff is very welcoming and helpfull. Thank you to Executive Puan Sarimah Sapwi on your kind helpfull. I was here attending company training. What I want to say is it the ballroom is very spacious and comfort. The room ia a sound proof. The food is very good and deliciuos. It is variety and very tastefully. The High tea also very good especially a mee goreng mamak. Overal is very good.

Dear Crystal Crown Management Team, First of all, I would like to thank you for the hospitality during this period. To begin with, I have a brother who is currently serving quarantine at Hotel Ramada, so I know exactly what are the two hotels offering and its differences. Nevertheless, my stay with Crystal Crown has been a decent one which I am grateful for. I will also be honest with you that there are quite number of areas which need to be improved, not only for the wellbeing of the next batch of guests, but also for the benefit of your staff members. Hence, I would like to provide some constructive suggestions. 1) Communications a) Clarity on the rules of food / items delivery. The RELA briefed us on the arrival day, but it was unclear as we were seated outdoor. A suggestion is to include pictures in your document. See the attached photo for illustration. Besides pasting the rules at the entrance, you could also print it out in black and white for every room, together with the welcome letter. I believe that once the rules are spelled out clearly, the guests will manage their expectations accordingly. b) Distribute the 14 days necessities (e.g. mineral waters, trash bag, toiletries) at one shot. This is also a good practice of Hotel Ramada. Not only the guests can ration the items based on their needs, it also saves your hotel staff the trouble of attending to the needs of the guests at all time. c) Discontinue the whatsapp group. I understand the intention of setting up the group is for emergency purpose. But we all clearly know that this is not the case. Unfortunately, the chat group becomes a platform of all sorts of stuff: from requesting the daily necessities, clarifying the same delivery rules, asking the staff to pick up and send food / items, to spamming the group of 198 people with complaints and feud, or even turning the group into personal chat room. I believe once point a) & b) are sorted out, there is less need to use the whatsapp group as the main channel of communication. We can always use the phone in our room to call the front desk for additional requests or attend to emergency matters. Respecting the guests’ privacy is very much appreciated. 2) Dietary Preferences a) Make the effort to collect guests’ dietary needs and be committed to attend to it. This is a basic etiquette and fundamentals of the hospitality industries. Peanut and seafood allergies can be severe and deadly. The health of people with medical conditions (e.g. diabetes) could be affected. Not to mention the vulnerable such as the elderly, young children and pregnant women. We are human after all, hence the importance of mutual respect – treat the guests the way you want to be treated. b) Look after the well-being of the vegetarians. I would like to speak up for the vegetarians, especially those who practise strict vegetarianism. They cannot to take onions, garlic, chives, green onions and leeks, as it cause anger and desi

Near to Banafe and Kampung Carabao for dinner. There are also mini shops at the hotel lobby.

This hotel is 4 star very near to s’pore city & the hotels surrornded with many restaurants & club & pubs Osm . Dont miss out to Go to NZ Spa which is located at facility flr level 7 . Its sauna , body Massage & jacussi is super good open till morning from evening to 5 am the rate fir this spa is reasonable rate & can pay via cash or online payment . The Front desk officer is very friendly too . I really enjoy staying in this hotel but only think the swimming pool area now is closed due to Maintenance work . The Gym & NZ spa facilities is a available . Great trip & i really enjoy staying here & spend my weekends .

Had a one night stay over the weekends, everything was good until I realised I got bed bug bites all over when I left the hotel. The room we stayed in was 2802 but I didn’t manage to capture any photo evidence of bed bugs as I have already checked out when the itch got worse and I saw all the bug bites on my arms and leg. I’ve stayed at Capri many times but it’s the first time I experienced this. Went to the doctor and confirmed I had bed bug bites. Contacted the hotel through trip.com but the hotel staff said they didn’t find any bed bugs. Hope they can thoroughly check again to prevent this from happening to other guests. Photos of my bed bug bites when Im back in SG.

Love the people at the front desk, they are always so happy and friendly. Check-in took a bit longer than usual but the staff were very apologetic. I stayed in the Urban room at level 12 facing the highway and river. To my surprise it was rather quiet I can’t really hear the traffic. Morning breakfast at level 6 was pretty crowded. The next morning I just went down earlier and it was great. The girls at breakfast were always happy to welcome us… keep it up 👍

Nice little budget hotel. Cosy and clean. The con is the bathroom had a overhead rain shower only but no external shower head if I don’t wish to get my hair wet. Also the air con unit is directly above over the bed so it will be extremely cold times to come

We just came back from a weekend birthday staycation. Our stay at Renaissance Hotel was a very comfortable one and the staff were extremely thoughtful to prepare a surprise setup in our room - complete with balloons, a printed birthday message with even little heart shapes, as well as a tasty slice of birthday cake and handwritten card! We were very touched by this gesture; thank you so much! Their breakfast buffet was also better than expected - great variety and good taste!

No frills budget hotel, very affordable but has the basic necessities to get over a good night stay and sleep. Aircon , water heater functions well and wifi is pretty stable, which is a great plus for the hotel Surrounded with lots of good fnb establishments within walking distance and some of the foodstalls open till 2+am to fix your supper cravings. A few Massage parlors nearby and you can get to popular shopping mall like ksl within 10min drive ... Recommend for short stays...will be back

It was in fact the worse hotel I've ever stayed in Malaysia. Don't be fooled by the pictures they provided. I booked a deluxe family room and a deluxe queen room. Nothing to fancy about. As soon as we stepped into the ”deluxe family room”, the whole room including the toilet smells of moth balls!! Can you imagine going to sleep with that smell plus with 2 children (1 and 8 years old)?! It's DAMN stuffy!! First moth balls found below the sink cabinet probably to freshen up the smell of the flooring and another hung above on the ceiling probably to stop the strong urine/sewer smell. When we step on the parquet flooring of our room it was so sticky and the toilet floor was even worse! There were visible yellow patches on the floor that probably resembles as urine patches. TOILET FLOOR WAS WET AND GROSS THAT MY SISTER HAD TO CLEAN THE ENTIRE TOILET BEFORE USING IT. NOT FORGETTING THAT MY SISTER ALSO HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO CLEAN THE ROOM'S FLOORING TWICE CAUSE IT WAS TOO STICKY AND WHEN WE WALK BAREFOOTED ON IT! Below the cabinet's sink was already deteriorating and there were molds everywhere! Also not forgetting that our room doesn't comes with a window and yet its expensive!! If you're looking for a hotel for your family even for a night stay, this is not the best one for your family. I can say that with location, this is probably a hotel for **********s only. As you can't imagine until you've booked and slept in the room, our bedsheets aren't clean. There's blood stains on it and also blood stains on the bed side's wall. YES, GROSS! MY LITTLE GIRL EVEN ASKED WHAT'S THAT. We were obviously so disgusted that we didn't tuck our feet into the sheets. Shame on you guys for not doing a good job on proper housekeeping and maintaining the facilities in the rooms.

Grand Sentosa Hotel Johor Bahru, a three star urban class hotel is ideally located in the heart of business and 'Chinatown' district of Johor Bahru. Grand Sentosa Hotel is filled with happenings from day till night. Witness the liveliness of the city as night's falls, savour tantalizing cuisines or party and shop to your heart's content. Grand Sentosa Hotel Johor Bahru, which is within Plaza Sentosa, you can also enjoy shopping with a variety of anchors which include the largest family spa in Malaysia, F&B establishments and retailers include costume jeweleries, bridal galleries, optical, watches, Chinese medical halls, reflexology centres, family karaoke lounges , night clubs, discotheques, hair and beauty salon, cafes and various specialty stores.

First of all, SPECIAL SHOUT OUT for the housekeeping lady who did the cleaning up for our room🏆🏆 We had already checked out and were waiting in the lobby for the Grab driver when the housekeeping lady rushed down and returned my daughter's earbuds!! Thank you for going the extra mile! Other things we loved about Kyoto Boutique: - nice classy decor and the wooden floor (I hate carpeted floors in hotel rooms cos it's hard to tell if it's clean) - the hot water heater for the shower works perfectly! - there is a water cooler at the floor lobby so we could get cold and hot water!! - there is a safe in the room - many coffeeshops and restaurants nearby. Also has a supermarket just downstairs. - excellent service But overall the hotel should probably do some renovations or fix some of the items in the room. - Some parts of the wallpaper were peeling off. - The tap was loose and had to be shut off in a particular direction or the water would keep flowing. - the switch to the toilet did not have a cover so we couldn't switch off the lights - the temperature of one of the aircons couldn't be adjusted so it blasted very cold air all night. Thankfully, the family suite had 2 aircons (cos the room was divided into 2 areas, each w a queen bed). So we turned on only one aircon.

Cheapest Hotel you can book in JB, With free breakfast. Staff are friendly, free breakfast not bad coz it’s FREE :) Room was clean, will rebook this once we go back to JB! Well recommended

I travel for business, because I have training at JPFSA, so this is the most decent hotel in the area. This is a small town not far from Johor Bahru, the capital state. Easy to get Grab Service and a lot of eating place. There a bar and restaurant next to the hotel, Japanese Restaurant Opposite & Bakery opposite the hotel. Room is spacious, bright lighting and decent decoration, there no wardrobe. It's ok for 1 or 2 nights. Quite safe for woman traveller. Breakfast can be better. They only serve coffee/tea with sandwiches and noodles/fried rice. Please dont set high expectation for breakfast. This area mostly office area for freight forwarders and other small businesses.

It is my 3rd day of stay in this resort and it exceeded my expectation. I rented a 5 room villa and it is superbly maintained, comfy and clean. It is located just next to the golf course and the view is fantastic. At night you could hear the sound of insects with cool breeze. The staff here are helpful and courteous. We had dinner in the Club and most of the dishes are very good especially the duck 🦆 . Activities wise it caters to all age and personalities- we played tennis, table tennis, swimming pool with slide for kids. We’ll like try archery before leaving tomorrow. There are many other things here like table pool, gym, squash, horse riding, a small field for football and of course golf- we won’t have time for all these this time 😉. I will give a 5 Star ⭐️ rating for this resort in overall offerings, service and value. Keep it up Tg Puteri Golf Resort ⛳️ 👏👏

Overall is one of the good hotel at that location. Beach is just infront of hotel. Seaview and relaxing holidays. Just disappointed with the cakes, 2 occasions happened, one the matcha cake is dry and hard and the other is the durian puff was spoilt. Tast sour and selling at 18. The staff immediately feedback to kitchen and chef made a new one for us. They didn't charge us the puff. This should not happen in 5 stars hotel.

Stayed at four points by Sheraton Desaru for a few days for my wife's birthday. The services and decorations provided by the staff were top notch. There's a lot of parking space for cars, but I don't see any motorcycle parking lots. The room is spacious and clean. So happy with the stay. Will surely go back to stay in future.

My son and I recently went to Lotus Desaru and it was really fun. I actually didn’t expect a lot of things from here, but it really surprised me. The room was spacious, with high ceilings and cozy lighting. We had a bedroom upstairs, which made it feel even bigger. It was clean and comfortable, perfect for the two of us. Their cable even had Nickelodeon, so that was a plus, and they also had some movie channels. They also have room service from one of their restaurants, it can take 30-40 minutes to arrive but the food was really nice and eating inside your own room has some perks to it. My son absolutely loved the water park, and I enjoyed the pools too. There were plenty of activities to keep us entertained, and a good variety of restaurants with both seafood and western options. The breakfast was great, and the fact that you can catch the sunrise near the beach was a big bonus for us (make sure to head to the restaurant before 8 am, which we did). The beach was also beautiful with white sand and much better than I anticipated. The only thing that made me think twice about going back to the beach was that there was a rope attached to a buoy of some kind. First, I stepped on it and got small cuts on the sole of my right foot, and then I hit it again with my left, but this time, I hit the top part of my foot, resulting in even bigger cuts. I had to buy two band-aids (which were available nearby at the souvenir shop) to stop the bleeding. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who had that experience. I thought the ride from Johor Bahru to Desaru would take long but it only took about 1.5 hours by Grab. The fare from JB to Lotus on Saturday morning was RM255, but oddly enough, the ride back to JB was only RM130. Not sure why, but either way, it’s really not far at all for families coming from Singapore looking for a beach getaway like this. We had an amazing time (aside from that injury), and we are actually booked to go back in October with my two sons and wife, who couldn’t join last time. I highly recommend it for families who want a short ride and time off from the busy Singapore life.

Hotel was set in sprawling lands. Best feature was the waterpark literally just next door. However I suppose as it was the school holidays, service was quite slow. Our luggage was not sent up to our room an hour after we checked in. When we called the reception, nobody knew where our luggage was, but was given the reassurance they would find it. After waiting for another 10 mins, we decided to head up to the lobby and lo and behold! Our luggage was still at the concierge. We told the concierge that those were our luggage, and without checking, he just nodded his head and we took off with our luggage. No security checks. The concierge seems overwhelmed at the number of guests that day. The hotel glass shelves had a layer of dust on it. Looks like it hasn’t been cleaned for a while, which was quite unacceptable being a 5 star hotel. Room was a bit too dark for me and the Aircon was constantly cold even after I adjusted the temperature to 32 degrees Celsius! Breakfast was a riot with the large expansive halls being filled to the brim. Plates and cutlery was constantly unavailable. When the plates came, they seem to have been hastily washed with oil stains. Husband had a bad stomach after consuming some curry. To be honest, the employees tried their best to be as hospitable as possible, but it was just unfortunate that we arrived at a time where it seems the entire hotel was severely shorthanded.

Overall the hotel is nice and suitable for kids for playing water or the beach. Restaurant: Nelayan Seafood restaurant just beside and walkable and very convenient for lunch or dinner. Other than that they also have a small beach bar Tmaya beach bar but if they have an event such as a wedding event they will be closed. Pawana restaurant starts from 6.30 am -11pm. Ombak bistro starts from 4pm -12am Friday &Saturday Facility: Gym room is closed early but they mention operating time until 11 pm but 9 pm cannot open light. The kids pool is nice . Service : Due to my room having two doors easily I will lock the front door and cannot open the front door due to using a back door walk to the beach. Lucky service quite fast to open my door back. The hair dryer is not working well and lucky they provide new hair dryer.

Year end means holiday time for my little family. Arrived here quite early in the afternoon. Being promised that once the room is ready, the receptionist on duty will then give us a call, yet do assume that due to other urgent commitment and / or poor telecommunication coverage, it was no avail. (Disclaimer : my spouse got SMS informing that Maxis coverage will be temporarily affected at the current location, yet I never get one, although utilizing the very same provider) Just trying our luck to check in an hour early from prescribed time and viola! our room was readied accordingly. Room was adequately kept, small stains detected at the duvet, bidet sprayer malfunctioned. Not to be so fussy, we do embraced the imperfect condition accordingly. The room allocated to us in which purposely selected for sea view was nice. The hotel do situated not too far from other establishment. there is a residential area situated approximately 2km from the hotel, namely Taman Bayu Damai, in which do contained shophouses and basic necessity, if need do arise. Yet we did getting our daily doses of foods and other necessity down towards the south, in which nearer to Sungai Rengit. The foods readied at the hotel (in our case breakfast) were less then adequate in quality, but got nothing to complained about. Due to the time we have, we did embarked on sight seeing walkabout at the premises. Some of the attractions were abandoned, might be due to the ill effect of continuous MCO enforcement for the past 2 years. The beach was nice, but due to the timing of Monsoon, it will be not advisable to dwell into usual sea and beach activities too much. My two boys enjoyed their time playing with the sands, with much cautionary steps undertaken. Hopefully, as per my title of this review, time will heal this establishment, thus will be then enable them to offer their best package to prospectus guest.

A very nice and chilling gateway for couples and families to get away from the hustle bustle of city life. Stay and live in simplicity. Enjoy the tranquility of the lake. Good location to travel to Sg Rengit and Teluk Ramunia. A lazing trip to recharge the mind and soul. Very reasonable price. Suffice facilities for gym goers, swimming pool enthusiasts and carom plus table tennis players. If lazy to head out for F&B, food is available on the property. Simplicity of life if wanting to stay here and don’t put an over expectations of a luxury stay. Otherwise head to Sebana Cove and pay more.

From check in to check out all was a breeze, staff was friendly, very accommodating and helpful. Only downside was their cleanliness. Need to upkeep and improve in that area. Breakfast spread was aplenty. Swimming pool great, but lots of sand in it, understandable as it is near to the beach. So far in my 3d2n stay it was safe. Nothing sus. Low crowd too, maybe sg holidays ending period. Overall a nice stay.

Most ever worst room I stayed. This is the second time we booked Lotus resort. Previously, we stayed Lotus beach reasort at Desaru. We are impressed with loft units and amenities. So this time round, we decided to stay another Lotus Resort at Pengerang. We have booked 2 rooms standard King for 2 days which claim as near to beach. One is for us at 106. Another's room will be 108 for my parents in law. We found big red ants over room 106 on the desk, floor, and toilet. Make complaint to indian receptionist twice. One technician came to inspect, spray anti-ant, and believed what we had complained. The Indian receptionist only allowed us to change room to 152, which is super far from my in-laws room 108. Claims that only room is available for standard King. My in-laws room 108 is worse than us. They found a brunch of earth worms in the toilet bowl after flushed. Complaint to receptionist about issues. The same thing the technician came to solve was the problem. We are DISAPPOINTED for what we paid. Not value for money to stay there. We prefer Lotus Beach Resort Bandar Penawar at Desaru.

Extended our stay... spacious and clean room totally worth the price... the staff's are very friendly, only thing u have to go to the lobby and inform directly can't contact via phonecall... Very quite place.. has small pool.... room service done well.... Air cond is very cold, just need to wait 30min++ in beginning to get cool, after entering... bathroom is big and clean too.... water pressure is strong good... tv had medicore SG channels.. kids and us enjoyed watching... Felt safe and Independent stay.. Best to buy snacks & food before Check in as shops are not very nearby if u plan to relax in room... if have own car best to stay here as u can drive 15min++ to kampung pengerang and get food there right near the roundabout malay restaurant food was delicious and reasonable price... the place is tricky to find.. can use waze to klinik pengerang gateway.. it is in the same row as well.. easier... we visited the mini zoo desaru nearby 13min++ kids & adults will love it.. Beach could not visit due to rainning weather... Will definitely come here to stay for our next visit...